Spot on. It’s been my observation that CBT and DBT are the things that help people, and then joint counseling with loved ones with whom they have a contentious relationship and need a referee to help them see how they don’t communicate productively. Sometimes the framework of attachment disorders can be helpful too, but that’s gotten really corrupted by social media lately and it seems people are more often urged to call everyone toxic instead. When it’s just some vague thing where they talk about their anxiety or depression, it’s like they don’t get any concrete help besides medications or validation (which is more often than not the LAST thing they need) which I feel usually chip away at the very skills they need to hone, not muffle.
I fear a bit of a throwing the baby out with the bathwater issue coming here. Therapy as industry, and the veneration of indulgence of capricious urges, is a serious problem.
But serious good faith engagement in comprehensive well constructed modalities of therapy from insightful and astute developers of these modalities, can be a godsend.
My personal experience is that I had a sex addiction for a long time ("addiction" in the clinical definition that I would get withdrawals of regular intrusive negative thought storms without enough "hits"), and extended talk therapy that was with a good friend but along psychodynamic and Jungian principles got rid of this addiction resolutely and permanently. From a counterfactual standpoint, I can't imagine how else it would've been cured.
But considering that internalized misandry was a significant mechanism for the addiction also suggests that it would have never been cured by a conventional commercial therapist either...
Spot on. It’s been my observation that CBT and DBT are the things that help people, and then joint counseling with loved ones with whom they have a contentious relationship and need a referee to help them see how they don’t communicate productively. Sometimes the framework of attachment disorders can be helpful too, but that’s gotten really corrupted by social media lately and it seems people are more often urged to call everyone toxic instead. When it’s just some vague thing where they talk about their anxiety or depression, it’s like they don’t get any concrete help besides medications or validation (which is more often than not the LAST thing they need) which I feel usually chip away at the very skills they need to hone, not muffle.
I fear a bit of a throwing the baby out with the bathwater issue coming here. Therapy as industry, and the veneration of indulgence of capricious urges, is a serious problem.
But serious good faith engagement in comprehensive well constructed modalities of therapy from insightful and astute developers of these modalities, can be a godsend.
My personal experience is that I had a sex addiction for a long time ("addiction" in the clinical definition that I would get withdrawals of regular intrusive negative thought storms without enough "hits"), and extended talk therapy that was with a good friend but along psychodynamic and Jungian principles got rid of this addiction resolutely and permanently. From a counterfactual standpoint, I can't imagine how else it would've been cured.
But considering that internalized misandry was a significant mechanism for the addiction also suggests that it would have never been cured by a conventional commercial therapist either...